Jan Markell and Eric Barger spend the entire hour with Dr. Mark Hitchcock discussing the supposed trips to Heaven and Hell and back. Are they for real? Why do so many of them contradict the Bible? The co-hosts and Hitchcock spend an extended time on “Heaven Is for Real,” Dr. Mary Neal, and Don Piper. Why could Paul not speak about his trip to Heaven but people can today? Of the 400 books on the topic, why do so few give the plan of salvation so that all may get to Heaven?